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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:10 pm 
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Here are some pics of a mix of species caught over last few weeks ...uploading the most kosher ones .all the fish wre caught on soft plastic baits , 30 lbs mainline ( braid) with a 50 lbs (mono) leader was used .


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:33 pm 
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@websinner

Very nice mix ... the Mangrove Jack pictures are very good.

In Australia, that fish with the elongated set of teeth is called Long Tom.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:47 pm 
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@kingfish glad you like the jacks ...they have been getting bigger as the monsoon comes closer ... got a few mixed opinions about the name of longish fish ..... it had a lot of bones and a very different taste ...never seen anything like it on a soft bait lure till now.


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 11:30 pm 
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Excellent buddy.
Keep it up,
My elbow joint is paining, even though there is no catch.


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:23 pm 
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That fish with the pointed snout is called a Longtom or a Toothed Garfish, they take lures readily. They often take off when hooked making spectular leaps from the water. I was once fishing in Phuket and in the shallows saw this longtom hunting it was swimming around in very shallow water and moving between rocks from crevice to crevice looking for smaller fish to catch, it was very methodical, I tried casting my lure at it would cold not land it correctly owing to the number of rocks and corrals that were jutting out of the shallow water, there was no way to make a proper retrieve.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:10 pm 
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Nice pics. Thank you for sharing!

I want to hot the west coast once before the monsoon arrives. Let's see....

Cheers!
Maruthu


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:39 pm 
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Nice mixed fishes on the soft plastics. Soft plastics have become the most versatile lure of all...
What reel is that in the mangrove jack pic. I have never seen that with you..


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:19 am 
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@ h_venkatesan
sorry for the late reply , the reel in the pic is a kastking sharky 2 - 6000 series reel , its loaded with 50 lbs braid and paired with a 60 lbs mono leader , matched with a 10-60 grms casting rod i am currently using this as my heavy gear setup


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:47 am 
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Your views on the Kastking reel, performance wise?

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:41 am 
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@kingfish
so far so good , i am very happy with the sharky-6000 , its a lightweight reel and it has a smooth and linear drag , have used this reel for over a year now and its held up really well , no complaints at all so far . I have managed to land quiet a few bigger fish with this reel and really happy with the perfomance , so far the water proof seals have held up great , i usually rinse my reels in freshwater after every session. my catana 4000 recently bit the dust planning to get bg4500 (daiwa) non-JDM model to run my 30 lbs line
((ps: yes the sharky-6000 is made in china , was not my first choice but was running my 50 lbs line on a daiwa bg-60 ( old model) since its heavy to cast for a prolonged period got the sharky to give it a try....lighter and cheaper!!!! ))


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:50 am 
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@ bobby
thanks for clearing up the name of the pointy fish .... recently got back from a fishing trip where i tried to target the longtoms with a variety of small lures ...no luck at all ... even jerry-rigged a frayed rope into a lure in hopes of snagging a long tom...no luck ! speaking to the locals who fish the west coast i was told dec-march is the time for targeting the long toms .... they are called "TONDKYA" in kokani from where i fish from.


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:57 am 
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@ Maruthu
Another month before the rains , hit the coast asap ...... the water is churning up and starting to get choppy , wind is also picking up.... just got back from a small trip .
ps : fish are biting


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 11:54 am 
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BG 4500 is a good choice.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2019 12:47 pm 
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websinner wrote:
@ Maruthu
Another month before the rains , hit the coast asap ...... the water is churning up and starting to get choppy , wind is also picking up.... just got back from a small trip .
ps : fish are biting


Was planning to hit the west coast back to back the next two weeks, but something came up.... :(
Will try to make it at least once. Otherwise I'll have to wait till July and explore/fish some new places on the east coast....

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Maruthu


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:22 am 
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websinner,
Nice I see you have caught all the common target game fish in the West Coast except the grouper.
Good job !!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:01 pm 
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Some more pics from Oct when the rains let up for a few days ....all fish were caught on 30lbs braid mainline + 50 lbs mono shock leader.
ps: @ binu ....really tried for some rock cod/groupers .....managed to find the smallest specimens ...the hunt for the big gobro still continues.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:58 pm 
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@websinner

The first mangrove jack is enormous,even the second one is decent. Unfortunately, the flash overpowers the Barra in the first photo.

Keep up the good work with the soft plastics!

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:19 am 
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@kingfish

the first big MJ is my PB so far ..... the weight and the length is vexing me ,,,,planning to carry a tape and a weighing scale nowonwards.
The glare of my headlamp has killed the barra pic ....realised it much too late . search for the metery fish continues .


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:57 am 
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Fantastic, love that MJ.

Has anyone noticed, when fishing for MJs in one spot you will most of the time catch the largest one first, and then the second largest and so on?

Bobby


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:12 am 
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@ bobby

totally agree ...if time n tide combo is right in the first 5 casts , there is a usually a strike .


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:06 pm 
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Awesome action!
And thanks for sharing the pictures !! I love the terrain of West Coast I only got to fish there twice with Maruthu, and loved fishing those volcanic rocks !!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:17 pm 
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@ binu [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]
if you do plan a trip to konkan coast oct-march are great times to be doing so best weather conditions !!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:59 am 
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That's a good size MJ. Thank you for sharing the report/pics.
Can't wait to get back to the west coast. Hopefully in November....

I heard that that there was heavy rain this past weekend. How is the weather/water clarity now?
I might be able to get there this weekend if things are good now....

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Maruthu


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 pm 
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@websinner

The length of your PB mangrove jack should be easy to find out. Just measure the length of the blue shoe you are wearing and then use that as a scale to determine the size of the MJ.

The weight will be difficult to ascertain..... although I recall Binu (?) once quoting a formula by which the weight of a fish may be extrapolated from its length.

Do let us know your findings.

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:31 am 
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@ Maruthu

i would suggest waiting atleast 10 days or so before planning a trip to konkan coast .....i was there as recently a week ago and let me tell you the water was not half as calm as it was last year this time ., there is a lot of turbidity/ murkiness in water...waves were rougher/higher than expected and the lack of clear blue + calm waters was frustrating for lure fishing . A few days ago rains have started all over again with the approaching storms. things should calm down by full moon in nov ....excellent slot to go fish . [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:04 am 
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@ kingfish
MY blue water shoes have outer sole length of just a bit over 11 inches ...so i figure the fish must have been about 25-26 inches long and nearly 11-12 inches wide . my guess is it must have weighed around 8-9 kilos
If there is a formula to claculate the weight of fish i wonder what it comes to .... any ideas ?
i do plan to carry a scale and tape measure on my future trips as i would love 2 know if i have bagged a metery jack!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:32 pm 
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The formula to calculate the weight is as follows:

Girth x Girth x Length divided by 800.

Assuming a girth of 22 inches of your MJ and a length of 25 inches, we get :

22x22x25 = 12100 divided by 800= 15.125 lbs divided by 2.2 = 6.875 kilos

Still a good catch!

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:10 am 
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@ kingfish
thanks for the formula . so a metery should be around 13-15 kilos ....approx!
ps: wanted to know if anyone here practises IKE--JIMA method of dispaching fish they have decided to keep ....any pointers ?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:34 pm 
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websinner wrote:
@ Maruthu

i would suggest waiting atleast 10 days or so before planning a trip to konkan coast .....i was there as recently a week ago and let me tell you the water was not half as calm as it was last year this time ., there is a lot of turbidity/ murkiness in water...waves were rougher/higher than expected and the lack of clear blue + calm waters was frustrating for lure fishing . A few days ago rains have started all over again with the approaching storms. things should calm down by full moon in nov ....excellent slot to go fish . [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]



Oh man! I just saw you post. I was there for the last 3 days and not even a single strike.
Water cleared up a bit by Sunday, but no sign of fish. Thanks anyway for the update though.

I don't think I'll be able to get back there for about 3 weeks. But I'm hoping to get back there more often after that....

Cheers!
Maruthu


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:26 am 
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websinner wrote:
@ kingfish
thanks for the formula . so a metery should be around 13-15 kilos ....approx!
ps: wanted to know if anyone here practises IKE--JIMA method of dispaching fish they have decided to keep ....any pointers ?



I have watched a few videos about IKE--JIMA, never tried it though. If I want to kill a fish quickly, I cut close to the gills, under the throat and let it bleed to death.
For fish like trout and Salmon I use a stringer like a rope that passes through the gills and have the fish alive in water till end of fishing and then kill them all cutting the throat.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:46 am 
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I believe that the longer you keep a fish confined and under stress the flesh is ruined further, it is better to dispatch them as soon as possible and chill them, preferably if you can take out the gills and innards before you chill the better. I am not sure though, if you string a fish and keep it till it calms down wait a while and then dispatch it improves the quality? Prize blue fin tuna are killed as quickly as possible so that the burn, lactic acid and adrenaline that is released when the fish struggles is kept to a minimum for fear of ruining the flesh, this severely affects the price of the fish.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:22 am 
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@ Bobby

Everything i have read /watched online is along the lines of what you have mentioned .....
1: brain spike the fish as soon as you catch them to kill them as fast and humanely as possible .
2: destroy spinal coloum with a wire tool to stop further seizures in fish
3: cut gills and bleed fish in sea-water /ice- slurry before heart stops pumping
4: fillet/ debone ASAP
there is a vid on Ike jima by VOX on youtube and it really explains things very well ....esp degredation of flesh bcos of the blood /harmones released by fish when it is under stress/thinks its the end!

The taste/ texture of meat really makes a diff when ur having sashimi / ceviche.

I have cut fillets out after following all steps .....and also by ignoring step 2 and going to step 3 and i must say Ike jima really makes a diff in the taste and quality of the meat !

I usually clean/ fillet in sea-water where i catch ....ziploc\vaccum pack and then store in deep freezer
this whole process has spoiled my ability to enjoy fish bought @ fishmarket in Poona/ or to pretend to call it fresh!!!!
taste is pristine and fresh for upto 3 months frozen.
Vaccum sealing is much better than a simple ziplock.!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:43 am 
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@ binu
when you have the time plz search for Ike-jima by VOX on youtube ....things r explained very nicely .!
I have mostly used the stringer method till now , started in Proper IKE-jima dispatch from start of this year ..
With a freshly bled fillet its hard to tell the diffrence in taste ..... after a few days in the fridge or after freezing- defrosting cycle there is a noticable diff in taste ...However if the bite is hot ...its a difficult call to make .....fish some more or Ike-jima.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:47 am 
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@ Maruthu
Better luck on the next trip . looking fwd to more of ur vids ....they have been really informative ...keep up the good work [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:57 pm 
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@ Maruthu
Better luck on the next trip . looking fwd to more of ur vids ....they have been really informative ...keep up the good work [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]


Thank you! Will try to get back out there in a couple of weeks. Will keep you posted....

Cheers!
Maruthu


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