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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:10 pm 
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Here are some pics of a mix of species caught over last few weeks ...uploading the most kosher ones .all the fish wre caught on soft plastic baits , 30 lbs mainline ( braid) with a 50 lbs (mono) leader was used .


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:33 pm 
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@websinner

Very nice mix ... the Mangrove Jack pictures are very good.

In Australia, that fish with the elongated set of teeth is called Long Tom.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:47 pm 
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@kingfish glad you like the jacks ...they have been getting bigger as the monsoon comes closer ... got a few mixed opinions about the name of longish fish ..... it had a lot of bones and a very different taste ...never seen anything like it on a soft bait lure till now.


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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 11:30 pm 
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Excellent buddy.
Keep it up,
My elbow joint is paining, even though there is no catch.


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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:23 pm 
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That fish with the pointed snout is called a Longtom or a Toothed Garfish, they take lures readily. They often take off when hooked making spectular leaps from the water. I was once fishing in Phuket and in the shallows saw this longtom hunting it was swimming around in very shallow water and moving between rocks from crevice to crevice looking for smaller fish to catch, it was very methodical, I tried casting my lure at it would cold not land it correctly owing to the number of rocks and corrals that were jutting out of the shallow water, there was no way to make a proper retrieve.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:10 pm 
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Nice pics. Thank you for sharing!

I want to hot the west coast once before the monsoon arrives. Let's see....

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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 2:39 pm 
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Nice mixed fishes on the soft plastics. Soft plastics have become the most versatile lure of all...
What reel is that in the mangrove jack pic. I have never seen that with you..


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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 9:19 am 
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sorry for the late reply , the reel in the pic is a kastking sharky 2 - 6000 series reel , its loaded with 50 lbs braid and paired with a 60 lbs mono leader , matched with a 10-60 grms casting rod i am currently using this as my heavy gear setup


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 2:47 am 
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Your views on the Kastking reel, performance wise?

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:41 am 
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@kingfish
so far so good , i am very happy with the sharky-6000 , its a lightweight reel and it has a smooth and linear drag , have used this reel for over a year now and its held up really well , no complaints at all so far . I have managed to land quiet a few bigger fish with this reel and really happy with the perfomance , so far the water proof seals have held up great , i usually rinse my reels in freshwater after every session. my catana 4000 recently bit the dust planning to get bg4500 (daiwa) non-JDM model to run my 30 lbs line
((ps: yes the sharky-6000 is made in china , was not my first choice but was running my 50 lbs line on a daiwa bg-60 ( old model) since its heavy to cast for a prolonged period got the sharky to give it a try....lighter and cheaper!!!! ))


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:50 am 
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@ bobby
thanks for clearing up the name of the pointy fish .... recently got back from a fishing trip where i tried to target the longtoms with a variety of small lures ...no luck at all ... even jerry-rigged a frayed rope into a lure in hopes of snagging a long tom...no luck ! speaking to the locals who fish the west coast i was told dec-march is the time for targeting the long toms .... they are called "TONDKYA" in kokani from where i fish from.


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:57 am 
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@ Maruthu
Another month before the rains , hit the coast asap ...... the water is churning up and starting to get choppy , wind is also picking up.... just got back from a small trip .
ps : fish are biting


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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 11:54 am 
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BG 4500 is a good choice.
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websinner,
Nice I see you have caught all the common target game fish in the West Coast except the grouper.
Good job !!


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Some more pics from Oct when the rains let up for a few days ....all fish were caught on 30lbs braid mainline + 50 lbs mono shock leader.
ps: @ binu ....really tried for some rock cod/groupers .....managed to find the smallest specimens ...the hunt for the big gobro still continues.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:58 pm 
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@websinner

The first mangrove jack is enormous,even the second one is decent. Unfortunately, the flash overpowers the Barra in the first photo.

Keep up the good work with the soft plastics!

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:19 am 
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@kingfish

the first big MJ is my PB so far ..... the weight and the length is vexing me ,,,,planning to carry a tape and a weighing scale nowonwards.
The glare of my headlamp has killed the barra pic ....realised it much too late . search for the metery fish continues .


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:57 am 
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Fantastic, love that MJ.

Has anyone noticed, when fishing for MJs in one spot you will most of the time catch the largest one first, and then the second largest and so on?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:12 am 
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@ bobby

totally agree ...if time n tide combo is right in the first 5 casts , there is a usually a strike .


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Awesome action!
And thanks for sharing the pictures !! I love the terrain of West Coast I only got to fish there twice with Maruthu, and loved fishing those volcanic rocks !!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:17 pm 
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@ binu [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]
if you do plan a trip to konkan coast oct-march are great times to be doing so best weather conditions !!


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:59 am 
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That's a good size MJ. Thank you for sharing the report/pics.
Can't wait to get back to the west coast. Hopefully in November....

I heard that that there was heavy rain this past weekend. How is the weather/water clarity now?
I might be able to get there this weekend if things are good now....

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:24 pm 
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The length of your PB mangrove jack should be easy to find out. Just measure the length of the blue shoe you are wearing and then use that as a scale to determine the size of the MJ.

The weight will be difficult to ascertain..... although I recall Binu (?) once quoting a formula by which the weight of a fish may be extrapolated from its length.

Do let us know your findings.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:31 am 
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@ Maruthu

i would suggest waiting atleast 10 days or so before planning a trip to konkan coast .....i was there as recently a week ago and let me tell you the water was not half as calm as it was last year this time ., there is a lot of turbidity/ murkiness in water...waves were rougher/higher than expected and the lack of clear blue + calm waters was frustrating for lure fishing . A few days ago rains have started all over again with the approaching storms. things should calm down by full moon in nov ....excellent slot to go fish . [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]


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@ kingfish
MY blue water shoes have outer sole length of just a bit over 11 inches ...so i figure the fish must have been about 25-26 inches long and nearly 11-12 inches wide . my guess is it must have weighed around 8-9 kilos
If there is a formula to claculate the weight of fish i wonder what it comes to .... any ideas ?
i do plan to carry a scale and tape measure on my future trips as i would love 2 know if i have bagged a metery jack!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:32 pm 
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The formula to calculate the weight is as follows:

Girth x Girth x Length divided by 800.

Assuming a girth of 22 inches of your MJ and a length of 25 inches, we get :

22x22x25 = 12100 divided by 800= 15.125 lbs divided by 2.2 = 6.875 kilos

Still a good catch!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:10 am 
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@ kingfish
thanks for the formula . so a metery should be around 13-15 kilos ....approx!
ps: wanted to know if anyone here practises IKE--JIMA method of dispaching fish they have decided to keep ....any pointers ?


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I believe that the longer you keep a fish confined and under stress the flesh is ruined further, it is better to dispatch them as soon as possible and chill them, preferably if you can take out the gills and innards before you chill the better. I am not sure though, if you string a fish and keep it till it calms down wait a while and then dispatch it improves the quality? Prize blue fin tuna are killed as quickly as possible so that the burn, lactic acid and adrenaline that is released when the fish struggles is kept to a minimum for fear of ruining the flesh, this severely affects the price of the fish.


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@ Bobby

Everything i have read /watched online is along the lines of what you have mentioned .....
1: brain spike the fish as soon as you catch them to kill them as fast and humanely as possible .
2: destroy spinal coloum with a wire tool to stop further seizures in fish
3: cut gills and bleed fish in sea-water /ice- slurry before heart stops pumping
4: fillet/ debone ASAP
there is a vid on Ike jima by VOX on youtube and it really explains things very well ....esp degredation of flesh bcos of the blood /harmones released by fish when it is under stress/thinks its the end!

The taste/ texture of meat really makes a diff when ur having sashimi / ceviche.

I have cut fillets out after following all steps .....and also by ignoring step 2 and going to step 3 and i must say Ike jima really makes a diff in the taste and quality of the meat !

I usually clean/ fillet in sea-water where i catch ....ziploc\vaccum pack and then store in deep freezer
this whole process has spoiled my ability to enjoy fish bought @ fishmarket in Poona/ or to pretend to call it fresh!!!!
taste is pristine and fresh for upto 3 months frozen.
Vaccum sealing is much better than a simple ziplock.!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:43 am 
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@ binu
when you have the time plz search for Ike-jima by VOX on youtube ....things r explained very nicely .!
I have mostly used the stringer method till now , started in Proper IKE-jima dispatch from start of this year ..
With a freshly bled fillet its hard to tell the diffrence in taste ..... after a few days in the fridge or after freezing- defrosting cycle there is a noticable diff in taste ...However if the bite is hot ...its a difficult call to make .....fish some more or Ike-jima.


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@ Maruthu
Better luck on the next trip . looking fwd to more of ur vids ....they have been really informative ...keep up the good work [smilie=coolup.gif] [smilie=coolup.gif]


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Had a short trip to the coast a few days before the lockdown..... I finally upgraded my busted catana 4000 to a Bg 4000 (jdm) ...loaded it up with 30 lbs braid mainline and #50 mono leader ....all fish were caught on soft plastics.
ps: the DAiwa bg 4000 performed flawlessly.....very impressed with the smoothness and the overall build quality. Easily getting 20 mtrs more casting distance than the Catana 4000!!


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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2020 11:45 pm 
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A very nice mix of fish, indeed.

Good to hear that you are happy with your new BG4000 reel,
it has had positive reviews universally.

Out of interest, what was the maximum casting distance you
are getting with your new setup?

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@kingfish....i think was getting about 30 mtrs easy on earlier with my catana 4000 ...now i guess i am getting around 45-50 mtrs .....since i mainly target fish from the rocks casting distance is not so much of a priority but the extra distance opens up a lot of new possibilities from newer locations .....the extra drag + extra line capacity + smoothness of cast all add up to a better experience .
Since i am using the same line +same lures + same rod with the bg4000 the difference in casting distances was hard to ignore.
will be intresting to see how the JDm model stands up to a year of wear and tear .


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Very nice websinner ! Soft plastics are one of my favourite. The storm swim shad is top in my list too !
Nice barramundi !

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@binu
the storm swim shad is my go to lure ....finally the cod are getting bigger in size ...hopefully will hit a metery soon ...waiting for travel restrictions to be lifted. feels like its been forever since i saw the ocean last.


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Nice mix of fishes there. Strom Shad is one of my favorite soft plastic too.. Had got many good sized GT with that. I could hear the pounding waves all day and night for the past 40 days, but could not go fishing...


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Fishing withdrawal symptoms have been intense. Lockdown has put a lot of things in perspective


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@websinner

Have you tried other brands of soft plastics apart from Storm?

Gulp, Zman, Squidgies come to mind readily. What are your impressions on these for use in India?

Storm soft plastics do not see much action here in Australia.

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PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2020 5:27 pm 
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I have tried z-man softies and they have worked really well , the reason i mostly use storm is that a few years ago i picked up a lot of these lures ( i mean like a few boxes of the stuff !!) ....so the plan is to go thru these before they degrade/ become unusuable ....
also the storm is pre-rigged with internal weights ....so for lazy people like me its my go 2 lure ...no fuss about selecting jighead and rigging it up ......
2: Till recently getting decent fishing gear at a decent price in india has been not easy .....in last few years the scene has changed i must admit....so the tendency to stick with what works has stuck.( plus laziness)
ps: i personally think getting the right fishing window ( ie: right mix of time + tide + climatic conditions is super critical to success) when all these boxes are ticked i think one will catch fish with almost any lure .( knowing the lay of the land and what bait fish are around to match the hatch also helps)
Gulp, Zman, Squidgies ...should all work really well cant see any reason why they should not!
i have had success with shallow divers,deep-divers , spoons and poppers also..... however its hard to beat the versatility of a soft plastic being able to cover diff parts of the water column ( one lure for any time/condition)
how is the fishing ur side of the world?? ... been reading that beach fishing has recently been given the green signal in Aus post lockdown.
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Hello Parag,

Very interesting to hear what you have to say about the softplastics.

I agree that pre-rigged soft plastics are a boon for us anglers, as it can be a pain carrying around a load of jigheads and change them whenever the hook opens up or one decides to go to a higher or lower weight for a particular situation.

At the moment, I am trying to obtain some clarity on the fishing scene here in the state of New South Wales. Each State in Australia is setting up its own regulations with regard to opening up various services.

Most of my time has been spent reviewing my gear and oiling the reels, cleaning rods and guides etc. in anticipation of hitting the water.

By the way, that is a beautiful picture in silhouette at dusk time.

Kingfish


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@ kingfish
Ditto here also ...the first month of the lockdown was spent servicing reels + repairing broken rods and patching up torn soft plastics ( storm in my case ). like h_venkatesan said...."" I could hear the pounding waves all day and night for the past 40 days, but could not go fishing""...
I too have been dreaming of the water and all the missed sessions .IF one pic were to sum up my feeling then this is it ...standing on the rocks @ the magic hour ( twilight) waiting for the bite .
Till the lockdown ends this is the only fishing fix left ( atleast for those of us who are landlocked)...a friendly chat with our fellow anglers and reliving memories thru some pics .Stay safe and lets all pray for the light at the end of the tunnel ...or in our case the bite that we keep dreaming of .
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