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 Post subject: penn fierce or sargus ?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:32 pm 
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hi friends :wink:

3 questions but too many lines..please help me by answering :roll:

i am gonna buy a new penn reel..

my friend suggested sargus 6000/8000 reel...

i have checked details of fierce too..

both having same configuration except ball bearings..

sargus has 5+1 and fierce has 4+1
other than than all are same including spool capacity, drag everything

my doubt is how fierce is different from sargus??which one to choose?because fierce's price is lesser than sargus....

and few more doubts...i ll ask by numbering..so give me some information those who are familiar with drag system in general and the above mentioned reels.

1.some high priced reels more than 10k also doesnt have drag more than 20 lbs but penn sargus/fierce 8000 series have 25lbs...how much important the drag system is??even the famous penn spinfisher 850ssm has 11 lbs drag only..what is the importance of high drag in these 2 penn reels when big conventional reels for trolling off shore have drags about 10-15 lbs?? :twisted:

2.its a doubt regarding rods

Model Length Rod pcs Rod pwr Lure wt.Gms Line Lb/Tst
SHAKESPEARE BIG WATER POWEROD---> 10’ 2 M 28-113 10-25

PENN MAKO---------------------------------> 8’ 2 MH 14-56 15-40

ABU GARCIA TOURNAMENT SPINNING---> 9’ 2 H NIL 17-40

first rod has highest lure wt..and second rod has heighest line test...
when buying rods which one we should look at?? LINE TEST or LURE WT??

3.among the three rods..which one is good one??

thanks


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 2:36 pm 
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@fishmiss

My question is, what are you fishing for with this gear and where do you intend to use it?

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:51 pm 
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chennai shores and jetty.. And targeting GT barramundi


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:28 pm 
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Location: Sydney, Australia
Ok.

I am not familiar with the reels you mention so I cannot give you my
views on their merits.

GT fishing would need a strong rod and a reel with a strong drag, the higher the drag capacity the better in my opinion as these are powerful fish that need to be manhandled away from cover such as rocks or reefs before they break you off.

Casting continually from the shore is quite strenuous and you should choose a rod and
reel combination that you are comfortable using all day.

Hopefully, other members may be able to give you further information.

Kingfish


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:52 am 
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fishmiss wrote:
hi friends :wink:

3 questions but too many lines..please help me by answering :roll:

i am gonna buy a new penn reel..

my friend suggested sargus 6000/8000 reel...

i have checked details of fierce too..

both having same configuration except ball bearings..

sargus has 5+1 and fierce has 4+1
other than than all are same including spool capacity, drag everything

my doubt is how fierce is different from sargus??which one to choose?because fierce's price is lesser than sargus....

and few more doubts...i ll ask by numbering..so give me some information those who are familiar with drag system in general and the above mentioned reels.

1.some high priced reels more than 10k also doesnt have drag more than 20 lbs but penn sargus/fierce 8000 series have 25lbs...how much important the drag system is??even the famous penn spinfisher 850ssm has 11 lbs drag only..what is the importance of high drag in these 2 penn reels when big conventional reels for trolling off shore have drags about 10-15 lbs?? :twisted:

2.its a doubt regarding rods

Model Length Rod pcs Rod pwr Lure wt.Gms Line Lb/Tst
SHAKESPEARE BIG WATER POWEROD---> 10’ 2 M 28-113 10-25

PENN MAKO---------------------------------> 8’ 2 MH 14-56 15-40

ABU GARCIA TOURNAMENT SPINNING---> 9’ 2 H NIL 17-40

first rod has highest lure wt..and second rod has highest line test...
when buying rods which one we should look at?? LINE TEST or LURE WT??

3.among the three rods..which one is good one??

thanks



Hi , Don't want to comment on the "Drag" in this episode, too long a story ;-) .

Go with the Sargus 6000(i have one each in 6000 and 4000) and not the 8000 which will be an over kill and heavier. A 6000 is good enough for inshore applications. Sargus is all metal, but in Fierce the rotor is graphite, suppose to be a less stronger/durable material.

Rod,


Penn Power rod: A strict NO, guides aren't that durable. And from the items listed for comparison, I think i know your source and they sell SHAKESPEARE UGLY STIK BIG WATER with FUJI Guide(very durable), go for the 9 feet one, it balance the reel nicely and an indestructible rod . Only downside is its a bit heavy because of the graphite+fiberglass construction. But if you feel you need some thing below that price range, i don't thing you will go wrong if you buy either of the other two rods.

BTW, both line weight and lure weight are important factors. "Most" (not all but the plastic lures generally used for inshore applications are) of the lures (excluding metal spoons) are between 10 and 30gms. so to cast this to a distance we need a rod with a lure rating confirming to that. So if you buy a rod with a large lure rating , it will not be able to cast the lighter lures (which is true in your case) very far.
Also, almost any Barras/GT's from shore can be managed with a ~30-40Lb line weight rod.

If not the UglyStik bigwater 9' with Fuji Guides, my choice will be the tournament because its 9' more balanced one for a 6000 reel and the Mako is too new an addition and don't know much about it.

All the best,

Tight lines...

Rajesh


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:02 am 
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@rbalakri

thank you friend

is sargus's whole body made of metal? including rotor shaft???


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:09 am 
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fishmiss wrote:
@rbalakri

thank you friend

is sargus's whole body made of metal? including rotor shaft???


Yes it is... Its a nice durable budget reel for inshore application.

Thanks,

Rajesh


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